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Sep 27, 2012 10:00pm PDT
and a new poll showing >> with 40 days until the election and a new poll showing president obama leading mitt romney by five points, la ra ingram refused to participate in a republican battle against the polls. >> i will say that if the romney campaign's numbers were different all of them fox included if they had a different read than the polls in the swing states you would really hear a romney ryan push back against the overall numbers in those battleground states. you don't hear that. i don't think they are happy about it. but i think they believe they are running behind and you are seeing some tweaks to the romney campaign >> today iowa game the first swing state to start the voting for the president of the united states. the polls he showed president obama up eight points in that state. now suffolk university poll shows the president at 46%. the president reminded what was said. >> i have always said that change takes more than one term or more than one president. it takes more than one party. i can't happen if you write out half the nation before you take office. >> i don't know how
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 1:00am EDT
he showed president obama up eight points in that state. now suffolk university poll shows the president at 46%. thpresident reminded wwa said. >> i have always said that change takes more than one term or more than one president. it takes more than one party. i can't happen if you ite out half the nation before you take office. >> i don't know how ma of you out there will be voting for me. but, i'll be fighting for you no matter what. i'm not fighting to create democratic jobs or republican jobs, i'm fighting to create american js. >> today the obama re-election campaign relsed it's third add hitting ttney r ltand lying about 47% of americans. >> 47% of people will vote for the president who are -- believe that they are victims believe the president whare belve they arctbee gnmhathe responsibility to care for them and believe that they are entitled to health care and housing and you name it. my job is not to worry about those people. >> rush limbaugh is still struggling to find an honest way to defend mitt romney's comments on the 47%. >> obama is saying that 47% of the p
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 2:00pm PDT
trailing. according to a new fox news poll, president obama leads romney by five points among likely voters nationwide. 48% to 43%. catch that, the fox poll. highly significant there. let's go right now to howard on this question. it looks to me like this divorce papers are pretty much out there right now. all that you hear now is romney doesn't really want to be stuck in that little basement where they cut medicare. >> well, mitt romney was on the campaign trail today saying, i have a little secret, i'm going to win pennsylvania. okay. he's not going to win pennsylvania. >> it's the oldest state in the union. >> he's not going to win pennsylvania with paul ryan's profile on medicare or budget cutting or anything else. so if mitt romney is serious about making a play in pennsylvania, that just underscores how inconvenient paul ryan has become. look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is,
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 7:00pm EDT
program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on medicare by 19. in florida, 15. in virginia, 13. other polls have shown president obama's advantage on medicare has grown significantly since ryan joined the ticket. so let's go back to this again, trying to figure this out. he bought into a guy who was known primarily for this voucher plan, getting rid of medicare as we know it. basically go to a doctor and the bills are paid by medicare. you can't beat a system like that, joy ann, i don't think on this planet earth and have something paid for when you go to do it. there's nothing like it. >> and -- >> why would anybody want to change it? nobody would want to change it. >> chris, i think what's worse than that is they tried to be too cute with it. they said they're not going to touch anybody over 55. people over 55 understand their children are future seniors. it's not they're going to be selfish and say as long as you don't touch my medicare, go ahead, turn it into a voucher. seniors don't like the idea of changing the program for their children a
Comedy Central
Sep 27, 2012 11:30pm PDT
with bunny. besides, you can't trust polls. right fox news. >> the latest fox news polls give president obama an edge in three key swing states. he's up 5 in florida, 7 in ohio and 7 in virginia. but that is with all likely voters. once you isolate voters extremely interested in the election the race is much closer. >> stephen: yes. much closer among the extremely interested. and romney's tied when you focus on the index pressably intrigued. and he's up, he's up by 2 points when you count only voters who are sigh cotically engaged. (applause) the point is the point is the polls showing romney behind have to be wrong. >> we have a bunch of polls, gallup, pew and-- and uh-- the cnn which either oversampled democrats or at least in the case of cnn, appear to grossly underestimate the percentage of independents. >> there is really lousy sampling in these polls. >> i don't believe them because i think the sampling is probably skewed. >> it is clear that many of these polls are oversampling. >> the polls are skewed. >> i don't believe them. you can go through all the scientific goobledygook you lik
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 1:00am PDT
personally popular until the recession kicked in. right now in a popularity poll, president obama is ahead of mitt romney by throw three-points according to a new survey. after next week's debate it could change dramatically. there is no question about obama and romney realize they must come across as nice guys that is why they go on entertainment programs. >> we're is very happy you came on this a mrs. obama and brought your date? >> i brought him. he had a few minutes in his schedule. >> i told folks i'm supposed to be eye candy. >> what is your guilty pleasure. >> a donut for me. >> peanut butter sandwiches. >> what does he wear for bed? >> bill: some candidates believe that they shouldn't be dealing with trivia when the economy is awful and there is turmoil in the middle east but they do what they have to do. talking points understand that americans want their leaders to be accessible. they wanted to know that powerful people understand that. that is why the president's campaign has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to demonize governor romney as a callous rich guy. no one k
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 3:00pm EDT
obama? >> according to the public polls, obama is doing really well in pennsylvania. maybe he's got some private polls that he's doing inside his campaign that shows some other trends developing in pennsylvania. i haven't seen any public polls that would indicate he's got a shot in pennsylvania. i also haven't seen any indication that the romney campaign is spending any campaign money advertising in pennsylvania. if they are, it is really not much. but as i say, maybe there is something that his campaign knows that we don't yet know because right now it looks like obama is doing really, really well in pennsylvania. and the surrounding states, new jersey, new york, or maryland for that matter. i think romney does have a shot obviously in some of the other states like ohio, not that far away, but pennsylvania looks like a long shot. he was doing some fund-raising there earlier today, had a rally in pennsylvania, but we'll see if this is serious, this notion that he potentially has a shot in pennsylvania. if he does, it would be a dramatic shift. >> wow, we heard, wolf, a lot of analysts sa
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 12:00pm EDT
. other polls out show president obama and romney locked in a tight fight. according to the nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist poll, president obama has a slight lead in nevada and north carolina but basically within the margin of error. and in virginia, a new poll from suffolk university/nbc 12 puts obama slightly ahead of romney, also within the margin of error. so, how can romney turn it around? it may not be easy. some people within this romney campaign have concluded he's not actually a very good politician. here's what one romney official explained to politico. he said -- now romney's former rival newt gingrich doesn't go quite that far, but he says that romney needs to reform his thinking. >> i think they're only now beginning to come to grips with the general election. they had a very -- >> scary -- >> they had a very successful primary strategy. in a primary you can raise enough money to build a motor boat and drive to where you want to get to in the primary. in the general election you're like a sail boat. the system is so much bigger than you. >> it is hard to go from a
CNN
Sep 27, 2012 11:00pm PDT
"wall street journal" poll. three more states now going into the obama column just a few moments ago. new hampshire, nevada and north carolina. in new hampshire, among likely voters, the spread is now seven points. margin error is about 3%. in nevada, it is a 2% spread within the margin of error. in north carolina, also within the margin of error, but now in favor of president obama. this is a state many people thought that could not happen in given especially the gay marriage debate, but these are the latest numbers we have tonight. obama is now leadinging in the latest polling from all nine battleground states. particularly a problem tonight is florida. the latest cbs poll shows obama ahead by nine points in florida. so, is this true? you may have heard about this. many on the right saying the polls are skewed. they're unfair. here is why republican strategist karl rove who knows polls and elections better than anyone says these polls can't possibly be right. >> think about this. romney and obama get each roughly the same percentage of the republicans and democrats as their opponen
NBC
Sep 28, 2012 4:00am PDT
street journal marist poll shows president obama leading mitt romney in new hampshire. the two, however, are neck in >> reporter: earlier this week we were reporting new numbers for ohio and florida where president obama had a lead. new polls tell us in some battleground states it's much closer. mitt romney's message to donors last night. romney is only two points behind president obama there, but seven points behind in new hampshire. >> now your job is in danger. >> reporter: both sides came out swinging with new campaign ads on thursday. >> if i could sit down around with you at your kitchen table, here is what i would say. >> reporter: something new called economic patriotism. >> an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> romney saying the nation's debt is more than just paper. >> that is held by somebody. someone holds that. >> reporter: even supporters are split on how romney can win this race. >> he has to get a little more fire in the belly. >> he needs to stick be the facts. it's all about the economy.
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 2:30am PDT
that a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll has president obama ahead in north carolina. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that in the last five presidential elections, the democratic nominee has won the state where the democratic national convention was held. in fact, the last democratic nominee to lose the convention state was michael dukakis. he failed to carry georgia in 1988 despite holding the dnc in atlanta. >>> let he is gather around the water cooler to watch a special thursday night election season edition of "saturday night live." and in this sketch, president obama takes questions from the audience at a campaign rally in ohio while many voters down in the dumps over the job market watch the president look for something that they can all agree on. >> hi. i got laid off in 2009. i still haven't found a job. i don't want to vote for romney. but i really thought things would be better by now. >> real change takes more than one term. or even one president. i don't know if it will even happen in eight years. might take 12. frankly, i might be long dead. who here has a
CNN
Sep 27, 2012 11:00pm EDT
cbs poll shows obama ahead by nine points in florida. so, is this true? you may have heard about this. many on the right saying the polls are skewed. they're unfair. here is why republican strategist karl rove who knows polls and elections better than anyone says these polls can't possibly be right. >> think about this. romney and obama get each roughly the same percentage of the republicans and democrats as their opponent. that is to say they carry their base overwhelmingly. romney among independents is winning by three points, so if romney's winning the independents and republicans, do you think in a battleground state like florida, he's nine points down? the answer is no. >> okay. that math doesn't actually work out because according to the florida poll, those who say they're most likely going to vote, 36% say they're democrats, 27% republicans and 33% independents, so as you can see, the math that karl rove laid out doesn't necessarily have to be so. let's bring in our panel here and talk about all of the polling here we do at cnn and how it works. cnn polls, one thing you may hav
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 7:00am PDT
. the romney campaign privately does not they think the polls awrong. they say the poll show obama leading by more than think he is. it's not they're saying the polls are wrong. when every national poll -- i don't think we can say -- when fox news' poll shows obama ahead in a bunch of swing states recently, i don't think we can say the polls are wrong and biased because fox news conservative leading. they show what the polls are showing as well. the president has a strong lead. pollsters have a strong incentive to have their polls be accurate, because that's what their profession is. i'm skeptical they're tries to missample people. the finding more democrats are anyway poll, when a democratic candidate is popular, more people call themselves democrats. that doesn't mean the poll is wrong. more people call themselves democrats than they might have been four or five weeks ago. >> let me bring in mark mckinnon. we'll bring you into this conversation. i want to start with something that newt gingrich said this morning on "morning joe." mark, let me play that. >> everybody i talk to agrees he's
FOX
Sep 28, 2012 6:00pm EDT
nbc news poll shows him well ahead in the key swing states and every ballot cast early for mr. obama is one less voter that mitt romney can win over. steve handelsman is on capitol hill with the latest on this. steve? >> reporter: wendy, thanks. early voting, the official election day is november 6th, but that's actually really the last day you can vote. >> today is election day. >> reporter: in iowa today, michelle obama kicked off what she hopes becomes a stampede. >> are you fired up? are youeady to vote? are you going to go vote right now? >> reporter: the first lady sent voters to a satellite voting site across the street. so they could cast ballots on the spot. early voting started yesterday in this battleground state, and the turnout is breaking records. >> this is well over double what we did four years ago. >> reporter: most of these early voters say they're voting obama. >> well, i think it's because we're all excited and the romney people just aren't that excited. >> reporter: mitt romney trails in iowa polls and in the rest of the swing states where this election will be
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 11:00am EDT
impact. tick-tock with 35 days to go. a new round of polling shows president obama now leads in nine key battleground states that could decide the race for the white house. the president holding a razor-thin edge over romney in north carolina and nevada. he leads by seven points by romney's home away from home, new hampshire. those poll numbers causing the clock to tick and grow louder thousand. the first debate is five days away. >> do you think that he has the ability as a -- >> having debated him 15 or 17 times, yeah. >> he's a pretty good debater, isn't he? >> he's a better debater than any of the nominees on the ticket. >> how much will the debates matter? with iowa one of 30 states castingle balan casting ballots by the end of the month? >> do you know that mccain beat obama on election day, and obama got it in early voting. >> things can change overnight with a great debate performance, but again, mark hallprin, time is running out. >> he's still behind in too many places to win. he doesn't have as of today an obvious electoral college path, and he's not going to make it up on the
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 2:00am PDT
their way across battleground states, a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows president obama leading mitt romney in new hampshire. they're neck and neck in nevada and north carolina. tracie potts joins us in washington with more on this. good morning. >> reporter: as we've seen in polls earlier in the week, president obama seems to have a healthy lead in states like ohio and even florida. but in others, it's much closer. >> just getting elected will help. >> reporter: mitt romney's message to donors last night as polls show a tight race in nevada and north carolina. romney's only two points behind president obama there. but seven points behind in new hampshire. >> now your job is in danger. >> reporter: both sides came out swinging with new campaign ads thursday. >> if i could sit down with you in your living room or around the kitchen table, here's what i'd say -- >> reporter: what he said in virginia beach was something new, something he calls economic patriotism. >> an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middl
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 8:00am PDT
. thank you. >>> coming up, president obama gaining ground in the latest battleground polls, but mitt romney doesn't seem worried. some republicans act like nothing's wrong at all. are they in denial? "the cycle" hosts join me next. ♪ ♪ fly by night away from here ♪ ♪ change my life again ♪ ♪ fly by night, goodbye my dear ♪ ♪ my ship isn't coming ♪ and i just can't pretend oww! ♪ [ male announcer ] careful, you're no longer invisible in a midsize sedan. the volkswagen passat. the 2012 motor trend car of the year. that's the power of german engineering. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. wthe future of our medicare andr electiosocial security. for... [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? man 1: i want facts. straight talk. tell me your plan... and what it means for m
Comedy Central
Sep 27, 2012 6:35pm PDT
. now, unfortunately, the latest quinnipiac/"new york times"/cbs/t.c.b.y. poll has obama up by ten points in ohio, nine points in florida and 12 points in pennsylvania. (cheers and applause) i don't get it. i don't get it, folks. how can romney be behind? he's so popular that his fans are releasing bootlegs of his speeches! (laughter) folks, don't believe the critics who say this campaign doesn't have a prayer. he's going to have plenty of prayers-- thank thanks to a new web site called 40daystosaveamerica.com. >> all around us we see a nation falling around us into attacks on religious liberty. we're asking pastors and congregations all over america to commit to 40 days of prayer, fasting, and action. prayer plus fasting plus action equals change. >> stephen: that's amazing. because usually prayer plus fasting plus action equals passing out. (laughter) now, the hero-- (applause) the hero behind this project is texas pastor rick scarborough who last august helped launch rick perry's presidential campaign with the stadium prayer rally and god responded with a polite "no thank you."
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 4:00pm PDT
this is tight. >> jen, your internal polls for the obama campaign, do they show it like gallup, like cnn or tighter like rasmusen? >> well, we're -- >> come on. >> we're not focused internally or externally on the national polls. we're focuseded on seven to nine states, as i'm sure the romney team is as well. some, we're close, some we have more of a lead on. but it doesn't matter because we have 38 days to go and we need our supporters to turn out. it doesn't matter unless they cast their vote. so that's what our focus is is now. turning people out. it's already game day. already voting is happening and we need to keep our focus on november 6th. >> so, matt, what is it really about? i keep hearing, people are talking about getting the base out and that it comes down to the base. we had on one of the preachers saying it's all about the base. mitt romney needs to get the base out, but you said no, it's about those independents. those people who aren't on either side. am i saying too much to say you're saying it's not about the ba base? >> no, i just think people sfims get confused with el
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 7:00pm EDT
polls today by the american research group and they have mitt romney trailing president obama in two more swing states. five points in new hampshire and two in virginia. although i wanted to highlight the virginia one. there had been other polls to show that gap wider. this would be a much better than expected result than some of the others we've seen. this week -- has not been kind to the republican candidate as polls have shown him falling behind the president. but he is not showing any change in confident. >> i've got a little secret here and that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania. we're going to take the white house. >> he's going to have to overcome a big deficit to do it, but people do like a comeback kid. max, jen, the obama campaign press secretary. two very different problems. one, you don't want to get complacent and two, you don't want to get too far behind. matt, mitt romney was in pennsylvania today. obviously, the poll of polls that we
FOX Business
Sep 28, 2012 9:20am EDT
under president obama. 47% is a legitimate figure. and the latest fox news poll shows voters are fed up. when asked if all americans should be required to pay some kind of federal income tax, 79%, yes, they should. and joining us with americans for tax reform, maddie go through it for me fast. how did the spike happen? i believe there was a spike in the number of people not paying any federal income tax at all. >> right, we've got romney talking about this and the media saying that this is, you know, him insulting, inelegant, a problem talking about it, what it is a referendum on obama policies and the state of the economy. what we've seen are incomes falling and people have less income due to paying taxes on and getting more he deduction and less tax income liability. ahead of that, too, though, we've seen a lot more complexity introduced into the tax code, we've got deductions, if you fill out your own 1040 how difficult it is if you're not taking the standard deduction, what your tax liability is. this is something coming down the pipe with a romney administration or more republicans
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 6:00am PDT
back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a very big difference when obama is 45, 46 as months ago when everything was 44, now he gets to 48, 49, 50, you can say it makes a difference -- >> it does feel like 48 is a big difference -- >> seeing a change in the right direction in the approval rating. >> massive gender gaps. two places stuck out, nevada and new hampshire, look at this. 16 point gender gap in nevada among women. leads by 20 among women in new hampshire. social issues, any time that moved new hampshire big time. >> big effort at the republican convention to try to close this gender gap, obviously no
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 9:00am EDT
with the way president obama handled the situation in libya. look at brand new fox news polls we've got in. 43% of likely voters say they disapprove how the white house dealt with the story surrounding this whole attack. 39% say they approve and 17% are still unsure what they think about the whole thing. we'll have more on that later. this fox news alert for you. we are just getting word republican presidential nominee, governor mitt romney will speak with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu at some point today. president obama has taken heavy criticism not meeting with netanyahu while he was in the states to visit the general assembly. he drew a line making a case that iran is reaching nuclear point of no return but netanyahu laid out his vision for peace in the region. >> we want to see the three great religions that sprang fourth from our region, judaism, christianity and islam coexist in peace and mutual respect. yet the medieval forces of rad call islam who you saw storming american embassies of the middle east, they oppose this. they seek supremacy over all muslims. martha: david l
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 2:00pm EDT
, all right. >> romney's pitch comes as polling shows president obama has the advantage in nine battleground states including razor-thin leads in north carolina and nevada and a bigger lead in mitt romney's vacation destination, new hampshire. all of it comes with a new headline from politico. in the end, it's mitt. all of us making a first presidential debate, which is less than one week away now even more critical for the governor. let's bring in "news nation" panel. david godfrin, michael and steve daise, conservative radio talk show host. thanks to you for being with me on this friday. steve, let me start with you. these new poll numbers, the head-to-head showing the president now ahead in all three states, north carolina, nevada and new hampshire. new hampshire, of course, romney's home away from home where he has a vacation spot. governor romney's favorables continue to be underwater in all but north carolina now. combine these numbers with what we've seen all week, how worried are republicans? how worried are they that we're approaching the point where it might be time to
MSNBC
Sep 28, 2012 10:00am PDT
and get them to vote for me, all right. >> romney's pitch comes as polling shows president obama has the advantage in nine battleground states including razor-thin leads in north carolina and nevada and a bigger lead in mitt romney's vacation destination, new hampshire. all of it comes with a new headline from politico. in the end, it's mitt. all of us making a first presidential debate, which is less than one week away now even more critical for the governor. let's bring in "news nation" panel. david godfrin, michael and steve daise, conservative radio talk show host. thanks to you for being with me on this friday. steve, let me start with you.
CSPAN
Sep 28, 2012 7:00am EDT
, we can see that currently, according to "the wall street journal"/nbc poll, barack obama leads in nevada 49% to 47%. he leads in new hampshire 51% to 44%, and in north carolina 48% to 46%. however, two of the three states, north carolina and nevada, both think that mitt romney is stronger on the economy. so that's one set of polls. now, we've got this other set of polls we want to show you very quickly, and this is from rasmussen, and he does -- scott rasmussen's group, rasmussenreports.com, they do a daily tracking poll. for a long time now, they've been showing this race as even. right now, they're saying -- and this gets updated daily, about 9:30 in the morning -- and they president obama and mitt romney both at 46% nationwide. and when leaners are included, it's tied at 48% apiece. and the swing state daily tracking poll, they also have this, and they have that tied as well, obama 46%, romney 46%. again, this is from rasmussenreports.com. scott is a republican in colorado springs. hi, scott. caller: how you doing? host: good. what do you think about the campaign media cover
FOX News
Sep 28, 2012 12:00pm PDT
romney has an upwhile battle. according to the latest "wall street journal" and nbc poll, president obama has a seven point lead in new hampshire. north carolina is neck and neck with a two-point lead inside the margin of error. same goes for the state of nevada where the president has but a two-point lead. again, that is inside the margin of error. with us now is political reporter for real clear politics partisans can try to spin the polls but we use the same polls every time and the same methods. our polls say the same thing as everyone else. it is an uphill battle for mitt romney. no one is saying he can't win the thing. he has his work cut out. >> some of the polls do have higher samples of democrats. we hear the romney campaign --. >>shepard: our pollsters have said our poll is straight up and it is what it is. >>guest: you are right. that is why we are seeing both candidates, both the president and mitt romney, will be down a lot. we saw mitt romney in pennsylvania but we likely will not see him again until wednesday. the same thing with the president. he will campaign in nevada on
CNN
Sep 27, 2012 5:00pm PDT
polling from nbc news and the "wall street journal" in three battleground states show president obama leading in new hampshire by seven percentage points over mitt romney among likely voters. in nevada, mr. obama has a two point lead which is within the margin of error and in north carolina, the president also leads by two points. now, nationwide, he leads or is tied in just about every major poll unless you believe the complaints of a growing number of republicans who say the polling is skewed in favor of the president. there's even a website called unskewed polls.com that takes all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind is it simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say thistime, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008
CNN
Sep 27, 2012 10:00pm PDT
called unskewed polls.com that takes all those same polls that show president obama leading and claims to correct the bias, turning romney deficits into commanding romney leads. the idea behind is it simple. all polls base the outcome on what pollsters believe the electorate will look like, how many democrats versus how many republicans they think will actually turn out. getting that partisan makeup wrong can tilt the predictions. the people that don't believe the polls say this time, pollsters think the 2012 electorate will look a lot like 2008 and this they say is wrong. notice i said this time. back in 2004, democrats complained that the polls which showed george w. bush leading were overestimating the number of republicans who would vote. they were wrong. the polls were right. in 2000, al gore said don't believe the polls, polls showed him losing narrowly. polls were right. in fact, it's hard to find an example of the polls on average getting it wrong unless you go back to 1948, when they predicted thomas dewey defeated president harry truman. cnn political contributor ari fleische
CNN
Sep 28, 2012 1:00am PDT
been seven polls in the state of florida. one of them has obama -- one of them has romney up by one point. the rest are a very close race within the margin of error, one point, three points, four points, four points, one for five points. a poll came out that shows the president is up nine points. here's how they got there. they have nine percentage point more democrat turnout than republican. it's a fantasy. in the 2008 obama landslide, it was advantage for the democrats of just three points. and republicans won florida in 2004. republicans turned out by four percentage points more. you just can't have those kind of swings, the numbers aren't reliable. >> cornell, what do you make -- >> i think what really is going on, i don't disagree with what john said about what's driving it, but i think you're within the margin of error in almost every one of those battleground states. >> cornell, what about the florida numbers? >> i do understand what republicans are trying to do. i mean, they do have to sort of make this argument against the media that the media's biased in a way favoring dem
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